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Company Description ECB is a fast-growing engineering and consultancy firm established in 1997, offering multidisciplinary services across diverse sectors. The firm combines in-depth knowledge of Egypt’s market with broad international exposure to deliver tailored, client-focused solutions. ECB is recognized for its strong track record in design, site supervision, and project management, supported by a robust management system. The company’s processes meet ISO 9001:2015 requirements, reflecting a commitment to quality, consistency, and continuous improvement. Team members join a professional environment that values technical excellence and collaborative problem-solving.<br>Role Description The Design Manager is a full-time, on-site role based in Asyut, Egypt. This role oversees the design process from concept to delivery, ensuring that all engineering and architectural design work meets project requirements, quality standards, and regulatory guidelines. Day-to-day tasks include coordinating multidisciplinary design teams, reviewing and approving design documents, managing design schedules, and resolving technical issues. The Design Manager collaborates closely with project managers, site supervision teams, and clients to align design solutions with project goals and budget constraints. The role also involves mentoring junior designers, implementing design best practices, and contributing to continuous improvement of ECB’s design management system.<br>Qualifications<br> Strong expertise in design management, including leading multidisciplinary design teams and managing design workflows. Proficiency in relevant design and engineering software (e.g., CAD/BIM tools) and familiarity with applicable codes and standards. Demonstrated experience in coordinating with project management and site supervision teams to ensure design feasibility and constructability. Excellent communication, stakeholder management, and collaboration skills to work effectively with clients and internal teams. Solid organizational and time-management abilities, with proven capability to manage multiple projects and meet deadlines. Bachelor’s degree or higher in Engineering, Architecture, or a related discipline; professional certifications are a plus. Experience in consultancy or engineering firms, preferably within the region, and understanding of ISO 9001:2015 quality management principles. Ability to work on-site in Asyut, Egypt, with a commitment to ethical, inclusive, and non-discriminatory professional conduct.

Job Description: Mechanical Engineer – Thermal Insulation & Cladding<br>Experience Required: Minimum 10 years Location: Asyut Working days: 6 Days Working Hours: 8 Hours<br>Job Summary<br>The Mechanical Engineer – Thermal Insulation & Cladding is responsible for the engineering, planning, execution, inspection, and technical supervision of thermal insulation and protective cladding works across heavy industrial projects.<br>The role covers hot insulation systems for piping, equipment, tanks, vessels, boilers, ducts, and other industrial assets. The engineer will ensure that insulation and cladding works comply with project specifications, approved drawings, applicable standards, quality requirements, safety procedures, budgets, and project schedules.<br>key Responsibilities<br>Engineering and Technical Responsibilities:<br>* Review project specifications, drawings, piping isometrics, equipment layouts, data sheets, insulation schedules, and bills of quantities.* Select appropriate insulation systems based on operating temperature, process conditions, environmental exposure, energy-conservation requirements, and fire and safety considerations.* Prepare and review insulation and cladding specifications, material take-offs, technical submittals, method statements, inspection and test plans, and installation procedures.* Determine the required insulation material, thickness, density, vapor barriers, weatherproofing systems, fastening arrangements, and cladding materials.* Provide technical solutions for hot-service, cold-service, cryogenic, acoustic, anti-condensation, and personnel-protection applications.* Develop insulation details for piping fittings, valves, flanges, supports, vessels, tanks, ducts, boilers, turbines, and other industrial equipment.* Review vendor and subcontractor technical offers and verify compliance with project specifications.* Support cost estimation, tender preparation, quantity verification, variation orders, and technical-commercial evaluations.* Identify insulation interfaces and potential clashes with piping, structural steel, equipment, electrical systems, and instrumentation.<br>Site Execution and Supervision:<br>* Plan and supervise insulation and cladding activities at construction and operating industrial sites.* Coordinate daily activities with construction teams, subcontractors, planners, QA/QC personnel, HSE teams, and client representatives.* Ensure that surfaces are properly prepared and released before insulation installation.* Verify the correct installation of insulation materials, vapor barriers, sealants, expansion joints, support systems, removable insulation covers, and metal cladding.* Supervise the fabrication and installation of aluminium, stainless-steel, and galvanized-steel cladding.* Monitor workforce productivity, material consumption, work progress, and subcontractor performance.* Resolve technical and site-related problems and provide practical corrective solutions.* Coordinate insulation activities during plant shutdowns, turnarounds, maintenance campaigns, and time-critical projects.* Ensure that completed systems provide continuous insulation and adequate protection against weather, moisture ingress, mechanical damage, and corrosion under insulation.* Prepare progress reports, look-ahead plans, technical queries, site instructions, and completion documentation.<br> Quality and Inspection<br>* Inspect insulation and cladding works in accordance with approved drawings, specifications, method statements, and inspection plans.* Verify material certificates, approved manufacturers, batch information, storage conditions, and material traceability.* Conduct inspections covering insulation thickness, density, joint arrangement, fastening, sealing, vapor-barrier continuity, cladding overlap, water shedding, and workmanship.* Identify non-conformities, recommend corrective actions, and follow up until final closure.* Participate in client inspections, system handovers, punch-list clearance, and final acceptance.* Support investigations and preventive actions related to moisture ingress, insulation deterioration, heat loss, condensation, and corrosion under insulation.* Maintain inspection records, material reports, red-line drawings, and final project dossiers.<br>Health, Safety, and Environmental Responsibilities<br>* Ensure all activities comply with project HSE requirements and applicable site procedures.* Conduct or participate in risk assessments, job safety analyses, toolbox talks, and permit-to-work activities.* Promote safe practices for working at height, scaffolding access, confined spaces, hot surfaces, sharp metal cladding, and insulation-material handling.* Ensure the correct use of personal protective equipment and proper housekeeping within work areas.<br>Required Qualifications<br>* Bachelor’s degree in Mechanical Engineering from a recognized university.* Minimum 10 years of relevant experience in thermal insulation and industrial cladding.* Proven experience on heavy industrial projects such as power plants, refineries, petrochemical facilities, oil and gas plants, cement plants, fertilizer plants, steel plants, LNG facilities, or large process-industry projects.* Strong practical knowledge of insulation systems for piping, tanks, vessels, boilers, ducts, turbines, heat exchangers, and industrial equipment.* Demonstrated experience in both engineering review and site execution.* Experience managing insulation subcontractors, supervisors, foremen, technicians, and skilled workers.* Strong understanding of corrosion under insulation and moisture-prevention requirements.* Experience working on shutdowns, plant maintenance, or brownfield projects is highly preferred.* Good command of written and spoken English. Knowledge of Arabic or another project-relevant language is an advantage.<br> Required Technical Knowledge<br>The successful candidate should have practical knowledge of:<br>* Hot insulation systems.* Mineral wool, rock wool, glass wool, calcium silicate, cellular glass, perlite, aerogel, elastomeric foam, PIR, PUR, and ceramic-fibre insulation.* Aluminium, stainless-steel, and galvanized-steel cladding systems.* Vapor barriers, weather barriers, mastics, sealants, membranes, fastening systems, support rings, and expansion joints.* Removable and reusable insulation covers for valves, flanges, turbines, and equipment requiring maintenance access.* Insulation thickness calculations, heat-loss control, surface-temperature control, and condensation prevention.* Material take-offs, quantity surveying, cost estimation, productivity calculations, and project planning.* Reading piping isometrics, general arrangement drawings, P&IDs, equipment drawings, and insulation schedules.* Relevant international standards and industry practices, including ISO, ASTM, BS, EN, CINI, NORSOK, or equivalent project-specific requirements.* Inspection procedures, non-conformance reporting, punch-list management, and project handover requirements.<br>Software Skills<br>* Advanced proficiency in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Office.* Good working knowledge of Auto CAD.* Ability to review 3D models using Navisworks or similar software is preferred.* Experience with Primavera P6 or Microsoft Project is an advantage.* Familiarity with thermal-insulation calculation or heat-transfer software is preferred.<br>Core Competencies<br>* Strong technical judgment and practical problem-solving ability.* Leadership and supervision of multidisciplinary and subcontractor teams.* Excellent planning, coordination, and progress-monitoring skills.* Strong attention to detail and commitment to quality.* Ability to work effectively under shutdown and project schedule pressure.* Commercial awareness and cost-control capability.* Clear technical reporting and stakeholder communication.* Ability to coordinate effectively with clients, consultants, vendors, and site teams.<br>Preferred Certifications<br>* Relevant QA/QC or industrial insulation inspection certification.* Project management or planning certification.* NEBOSH, IOSH, OSHA, or equivalent safety training.* Manufacturer training related to industrial insulation and cladding systems.

Job Description: Mechanical Engineer – Thermal Insulation & Cladding<br>Experience Required: Minimum 10 years in Mechanical construction, up to 5 years in Insulation Location: Asyut Working days: 6 Days Working Hours: 8 Hours<br>Job Summary<br>The Mechanical Engineer – Thermal Insulation & Cladding is responsible for the engineering, planning, execution, inspection, and technical supervision of thermal insulation and protective cladding works across heavy industrial projects.<br>The role covers hot insulation systems for piping, equipment, tanks, vessels, boilers, ducts, and other industrial assets. The engineer will ensure that insulation and cladding works comply with project specifications, approved drawings, applicable standards, quality requirements, safety procedures, budgets, and project schedules.<br>key Responsibilities<br>Engineering and Technical Responsibilities:<br>* Review project specifications, drawings, piping isometrics, equipment layouts, data sheets, insulation schedules, and bills of quantities.* Select appropriate insulation systems based on operating temperature, process conditions, environmental exposure, energy-conservation requirements, and fire and safety considerations.* Prepare and review insulation and cladding specifications, material take-offs, technical submittals, method statements, inspection and test plans, and installation procedures.* Determine the required insulation material, thickness, density, vapor barriers, weatherproofing systems, fastening arrangements, and cladding materials.* Provide technical solutions for hot-service, cold-service, cryogenic, acoustic, anti-condensation, and personnel-protection applications.* Develop insulation details for piping fittings, valves, flanges, supports, vessels, tanks, ducts, boilers, turbines, and other industrial equipment.* Review vendor and subcontractor technical offers and verify compliance with project specifications.* Support cost estimation, tender preparation, quantity verification, variation orders, and technical-commercial evaluations.* Identify insulation interfaces and potential clashes with piping, structural steel, equipment, electrical systems, and instrumentation.<br>Site Execution and Supervision:<br>* Plan and supervise insulation and cladding activities at construction and operating industrial sites.* Coordinate daily activities with construction teams, subcontractors, planners, QA/QC personnel, HSE teams, and client representatives.* Ensure that surfaces are properly prepared and released before insulation installation.* Verify the correct installation of insulation materials, vapor barriers, sealants, expansion joints, support systems, removable insulation covers, and metal cladding.* Supervise the fabrication and installation of aluminium, stainless-steel, and galvanized-steel cladding.* Monitor workforce productivity, material consumption, work progress, and subcontractor performance.* Resolve technical and site-related problems and provide practical corrective solutions.* Coordinate insulation activities during plant shutdowns, turnarounds, maintenance campaigns, and time-critical projects.* Ensure that completed systems provide continuous insulation and adequate protection against weather, moisture ingress, mechanical damage, and corrosion under insulation.* Prepare progress reports, look-ahead plans, technical queries, site instructions, and completion documentation.<br> Quality and Inspection<br>* Inspect insulation and cladding works in accordance with approved drawings, specifications, method statements, and inspection plans.* Verify material certificates, approved manufacturers, batch information, storage conditions, and material traceability.* Conduct inspections covering insulation thickness, density, joint arrangement, fastening, sealing, vapor-barrier continuity, cladding overlap, water shedding, and workmanship.* Identify non-conformities, recommend corrective actions, and follow up until final closure.* Participate in client inspections, system handovers, punch-list clearance, and final acceptance.* Support investigations and preventive actions related to moisture ingress, insulation deterioration, heat loss, condensation, and corrosion under insulation.* Maintain inspection records, material reports, red-line drawings, and final project dossiers.<br>Health, Safety, and Environmental Responsibilities<br>* Ensure all activities comply with project HSE requirements and applicable site procedures.* Conduct or participate in risk assessments, job safety analyses, toolbox talks, and permit-to-work activities.* Promote safe practices for working at height, scaffolding access, confined spaces, hot surfaces, sharp metal cladding, and insulation-material handling.* Ensure the correct use of personal protective equipment and proper housekeeping within work areas.<br>Required Qualifications<br>* Bachelor’s degree in Mechanical Engineering from a recognized university.* Minimum 10 years of relevant experience in thermal insulation and industrial cladding.* Proven experience on heavy industrial projects such as power plants, refineries, petrochemical facilities, oil and gas plants, cement plants, fertilizer plants, steel plants, LNG facilities, or large process-industry projects.* Strong practical knowledge of insulation systems for piping, tanks, vessels, boilers, ducts, turbines, heat exchangers, and industrial equipment.* Demonstrated experience in both engineering review and site execution.* Experience managing insulation subcontractors, supervisors, foremen, technicians, and skilled workers.* Strong understanding of corrosion under insulation and moisture-prevention requirements.* Experience working on shutdowns, plant maintenance, or brownfield projects is highly preferred.* Good command of written and spoken English. Knowledge of Arabic or another project-relevant language is an advantage.<br> Required Technical Knowledge<br>The successful candidate should have practical knowledge of:<br>* Hot insulation systems.* Mineral wool, rock wool, glass wool, calcium silicate, cellular glass, perlite, aerogel, elastomeric foam, PIR, PUR, and ceramic-fibre insulation.* Aluminium, stainless-steel, and galvanized-steel cladding systems.* Vapor barriers, weather barriers, mastics, sealants, membranes, fastening systems, support rings, and expansion joints.* Removable and reusable insulation covers for valves, flanges, turbines, and equipment requiring maintenance access.* Insulation thickness calculations, heat-loss control, surface-temperature control, and condensation prevention.* Material take-offs, quantity surveying, cost estimation, productivity calculations, and project planning.* Reading piping isometrics, general arrangement drawings, P&IDs, equipment drawings, and insulation schedules.* Relevant international standards and industry practices, including ISO, ASTM, BS, EN, CINI, NORSOK, or equivalent project-specific requirements.* Inspection procedures, non-conformance reporting, punch-list management, and project handover requirements.<br>Software Skills<br>* Advanced proficiency in Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Office.* Good working knowledge of Auto CAD.* Ability to review 3D models using Navisworks or similar software is preferred.* Experience with Primavera P6 or Microsoft Project is an advantage.* Familiarity with thermal-insulation calculation or heat-transfer software is preferred.<br>Core Competencies<br>* Strong technical judgment and practical problem-solving ability.* Leadership and supervision of multidisciplinary and subcontractor teams.* Excellent planning, coordination, and progress-monitoring skills.* Strong attention to detail and commitment to quality.* Ability to work effectively under shutdown and project schedule pressure.* Commercial awareness and cost-control capability.* Clear technical reporting and stakeholder communication.* Ability to coordinate effectively with clients, consultants, vendors, and site teams.<br>Preferred Certifications<br>* Relevant QA/QC or industrial insulation inspection certification.* Project management or planning certification.* NEBOSH, IOSH, OSHA, or equivalent safety training.* Manufacturer training related to industrial insulation and cladding systems.

Company Description El Haggar Misr is a leading company in the air compressors business, established in 1977 and recognized as a trusted choice for compressed air solutions in Egypt. The company offers a wide range of products, including reciprocating compressors manufactured in cooperation with Rami in Italy, supporting businesses of various sizes. El Haggar Misr is the sole agent for Kaeser screw compressors and Camozzi pneumatic systems, backed by highly trained engineers and an authorized service center. The organization continues to expand its portfolio with advanced solutions such as high-quality Italian nitrogen generators, providing up to 99.9% pure nitrogen to meet evolving customer needs.???????????? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Sell and promote air compressors, air dryers, and related systems to industrial and commercial clients. Analyze customer technical requirements and recommend suitable solutions. Prepare technical proposals, quotations, and commercial offers. Deliver product presentations and technical discussions with customers. Manage the sales process from lead generation to deal closing. Coordinate with internal teams (technical, service, and operations) to ensure successful delivery. Build and maintain strong client relationships and expand market presence. Prepare regular sales reports and market updates.???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? & ????????????????????????????????????????????????:✔️ Bachelor's degree in Mechanical Engineering, Electrical Engineering, or a related field✔️ Fresh graduates are welcome to apply✔️ Experience in selling air compressors and compressed air systems is an advantage✔️ Strong technical knowledge of air dryers and industrial equipment✔️ Valid driving license is required✔️ Willingness to conduct field visits and customer meetings✔️ Excellent communication, negotiation, and presentation skills✔️ Ability to work independently and achieve sales targets✔️ Applicants must be residents of the same required hiring locations

<ul><li><p>Achieve agents’ sales targets and open new markets within the agent's area, including developers, carpenters, and building materials stores.</p></li><li><p>Conduct regular visits to agent showrooms to maintain strong relationships, ensure brand compliance, and monitor stock levels, showroom decor, and product displays.</p></li><li><p>Analyze sales performance and product movement; propose solutions for slow-moving items and ensure availability of all key products.</p></li><li><p>Ensure full availability of marketing materials including color cubes, brochures, catalogues, and promotional items in agent locations.</p></li><li><p>Supervise the implementation of marketing campaigns and ensure their alignment with company strategy and regional goals.</p></li><li><p>Monitor agents’ commitment to Jazeera pricing, product exclusivity, and company policies; report any violations.</p></li><li><p>Support the recruitment and Saudization targets within agent teams and ensure all staff meet professional appearance standards.</p></li><li><p>Submit weekly and monthly reports with documentation (including photos) on agent visits, achievements, challenges, and recommendations.</p></li><li><p>Identify potential new agents or showroom opportunities and work on developing and onboarding them in alignment with regional expansion plans.</p></li><li><p>To perform all tasks assigned by the direct manager.&nbsp;</p></li></ul><p></p><p><strong>Requirements</strong></p><h3>Requirements – </h3><ul><li><p>Bachelor’s degree in <strong>business administration, Marketing, Commerce, or any related field</strong>.</p></li><li><p><strong>5+ years of experience</strong> in Sales, preferably within <strong>Paints, Building Materials, or FMCG industries</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Proven experience in <strong>Dealer/Agent Management and Sales Target Achievement</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Strong experience in <strong>Market Development and opening new markets/accounts</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Good knowledge of <strong>sales performance analysis, stock management, and market dynamics</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Strong <strong>negotiation, communication, and relationship management</strong> skills.</p></li><li><p>Ability to manage and develop <strong>agents, showrooms, and sales teams</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Willingness to <strong>travel extensively within the assigned district/region</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Good command of <strong>MS Office</strong>, especially Excel and PowerPoint.</p></li><li><p><strong>Valid driving license</strong> is preferred.</p></li></ul><p></p>

About Petro App:<br><br>Petro App is a smart fuel management technology company helping organizations gain greater control, visibility, and efficiency over their fuel consumption and distribution.<br><br>Our solution uses NFC technology to enable real-time fuel monitoring and reporting, helping companies reduce waste, improve accountability, and optimize their fuel operations.<br><br>Today, Petro App is expanding across 4 countries: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Thailand, and Nigeria, with a growing international team building technology solutions for the energy, transportation, and fleet management sectors.<br><br>Key Responsibilities:<br><br>Identify and approach potential B2B clients Conduct outdoor meetings and field visits with prospective customers Build and maintain strong relationships with clients Understand customer needs and present suitable Petro App solutions Manage the full sales cycle from prospecting to closing Achieve and exceed assigned sales targets Maintain an updated sales pipeline and CRM records Monitor market trends and identify new business opportunities Prepare regular reports on sales activities and performance<br><br>Requirements<br><br>3+ years of experience in outdoor/field sales within B2B or corporate sales Proven track record of achieving sales targets Strong communication, negotiation, and presentation skills Excellent relationship-building and networking abilities Strong business development and prospecting skills Highly motivated and target-oriented Ability to work independently and manage frequent client visits Previous experience in fintech, fleet management, fuel, Saa S, or related industries is a plus<br><br>Benefits<br><br>Competitive salary package Attractive commission and incentive scheme Medical & Social insurance Career growth and development opportunities Regular employee engagement and wellbeing activities

<p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Main Job Duties:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Creates SSRS Reports and Dashboards</p></li><li><p>Creates Power BI Dashboard Visualizations and architecture (desktop vs pro vs premium)</p></li><li><p>Contributes to Information Services (IS) Projects</p></li><li><p>Performs System Analysis and Design</p></li><li><p>Designs and develops moderate to highly complex Reports and Dashboards</p></li><li><p>Develops application documentation and performs maintenance and support</p></li></ul><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Requirements</strong></p><ul><li><p></p></li></ul><p></p>

<ul><li><p><strong>Key Responsibilities:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Develop and maintain the organizational structure of the factory.</p></li><li><p>Prepare and update job descriptions for all positions.</p></li><li><p>Establish a job grading system and assign job grades to all employees.</p></li><li><p>Review and optimize the organizational structure to ensure business continuity and succession planning.</p></li><li><p>Assess employees' skills and identify training needs.</p></li><li><p>Develop and implement training and development plans.</p></li><li><p>Design career paths linked to performance evaluation and job grading.</p></li><li><p>Develop succession plans for key production and operational positions.</p></li><li><p>Promote employee well-being, including health, safety, and workplace engagement initiatives.</p></li><li><p>Implement job rotation programs across production departments.</p></li><li><p>Develop and update HR policies and procedures, including recruitment, termination, and leave management.</p></li><li><p>Establish and develop a comprehensive Human Resources department and its processes.</p></li></ul></li></ul><p></p><p><strong>Requirements</strong></p><ul><li><p>Establish and develop a comprehensive Human Resources department and its processes.</p></li></ul><p></p><p></p>

Company Description ECB is a fast-growing engineering and consultancy firm established in 1997, offering multidisciplinary services across diverse sectors. The firm combines in-depth knowledge of Egypt’s market with broad international exposure to deliver client-focused solutions. ECB is recognized for its strong track record in the consultancy industry and its commitment to quality and efficiency. Its management systems for design, site supervision, and project management comply with ISO 9001:2015 requirements, reflecting a structured and reliable approach to projects.<br>Role Description The Senior Project Coordinator is a full-time, on-site role based in Asyut, Egypt. This role is responsible for coordinating project activities, ensuring timely execution of tasks, and supporting overall project delivery in alignment with ECB’s standards. Daily responsibilities include tracking project schedules, managing documentation, liaising with internal teams and external stakeholders, and monitoring progress against milestones. The Senior Project Coordinator will also support expediting processes, follow up on inspections, oversee logistics-related tasks, and help resolve operational issues. The role requires proactive communication, attention to detail, and consistent reporting to project leadership.<br>Qualifications<br> Candidates should possess skills in Expediting and experience working as an Expeditor to ensure materials and services are delivered on time. Candidates should possess Project Management skills, including planning, coordination, and monitoring of project activities. Candidates should possess Inspection-related skills to follow up on quality checks and compliance with project specifications. Candidates should possess Logistics Management skills to coordinate the movement and delivery of materials and resources. Bachelor’s degree in Engineering, Construction Management, or a related field. Proven experience in project coordination within engineering, construction, or consultancy environments. Strong organizational, analytical, and problem-solving abilities, with effective written and verbal communication skills. Ability to work collaboratively with multidisciplinary teams and stakeholders in an on-site setting. Proficiency in project management tools and Microsoft Office applications. Knowledge of quality management standards and familiarity with ISO-based systems is an advantage.

Company Description<br> <br>We suggest you enter details here.<br><br> Role Description<br> <br>The Scales Supervisor is a full-time, on-site role located in Asyut, Egypt. The individual in this role will oversee the operation of weighing systems, ensure accurate measurement of building materials, and maintain compliance with company and regulatory standards. Responsibilities include supervising the scales team, resolving any technical issues, verifying and recording weight data, and ensuring the efficient flow of operations. The Scales Supervisor will also monitor equipment performance, maintain documentation, and coordinate with other departments to ensure seamless processes.<br><br> Qualifications<br> <br>Proficiency in operating and maintaining weighing systems and related technologies Experience in supervising team members and managing operational workflows Strong organizational, record-keeping, and problem-solving skills Ability to comply with safety guidelines and regulatory requirements Effective communication and interpersonal skills to collaborate with cross-functional teams Experience in the building materials industry or a similar field is a plus Bachelor's degree in Logistics, Supply Chain Management, Engineering, or a related field is a plus